President Donald Trump sat down with Jonathan Swan from Axios for an unedited interview covering numerous topics from the coronavirus pandemic to the passing of civil rights icon John Lewis. The interview has fast become infamous for the endless memes it has generated of Trump’s comments, but on a more serious level, it has also laid bare Trump’s seeming tone deafness to current events. Steve and Ben examine the interview and how journalist Jonathan Swan may have found a way for all journalists to tackle Trump in the era of fake news. Steve and Ben also discuss Trump’s upcoming 2020 election prospects, with a leading history professor who has correctly predicted each election since 1984 stating that Trump will lose this November.

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